Long term ammunition storage in a can

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Re: Long term ammunition storage in a can

#11 Post by Bullseye »

ovenpaa wrote:Alternatively 1 litre screw top fizzy drink bottles, silica gel in the bottom, fill with .22LR, flush with CO2, replace the lid and duct tape to seal then wrap in a black bin liner, it is a handy pocket/rucksack sized container and holds around 500 rounds. That is a lot of zombies...
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#12 Post by Charlotte the flyer »

Bullseye wrote:There is one way of storage of ammo I know of. But its a cache that lives underground.......

Anyone can try this project, but please don't bury it, keep it locked up in the gun cab or your FEO will rise eyebrow if you told him your ammo is safe in the wood underground :)


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#13 Post by Dave 101 »

But then again there is WWI era .303 sealed as it was back in the day which still works fine . I recently obtained some .22lr Winchester T22 1970s which had degraded to the point of 1 in 20 would work , I suspect this was due to the bullet lube soaking into the powder , because when I pulled them the powder was a greenish white colour but not an even colour throughout .
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#14 Post by meles meles »

The old lead styphnate and lead azide based primers last for decades - that is why it is still used by the Russians. Their sealed cans of 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 rounds are designed for long term storage and the rounds in them will work reliably 50 years or more after manufacture. In contrast, the non-corrosive primers used in most Western ammunition begins to deteriorate to the point of producing duds after about 20 years, hence most NATO ammunition is cycled out of service after 10 years.

By all means bury your caches of ammunition in the woods, oomans, but don't expect it to be there when you come back for it. Owt underground becomes ours. It's the law...
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#15 Post by zzr1100 »

I got given some ww2 issue shotgun ammo .. Paper cases marked with a black arrow .. Loaded with SG ...
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#16 Post by 450 Martini »

I posted a few weeks ago about the ww2 dated 303 i aquired, that was packed in 32 round boxes covered in cellophane and then sealed in steel tins with solder, now a friend of mine shot some of his supply last week and out of 32 there were no misfires or hang fires to report. They certainly knew how to make stuff last back then. On the other hand a few years ago Kynoch released several thousand 56 dated cordite blanks and these came in plain old cardboard boxes, these didnt go so well, about 1 in 10 were misfires. I think the damp might have got to them.
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#17 Post by Chuck »

450 Martini: that's what stoppage drills are for :lol:

Anyway, it makes life more interesting when you get a "click" instead of a "bang".
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#18 Post by snayperskaya »

meles meles wrote:The old lead styphnate and lead azide based primers last for decades - that is why it is still used by the Russians. Their sealed cans of 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 rounds are designed for long term storage and the rounds in them will work reliably 50 years or more after manufacture. In contrast, the non-corrosive primers used in most Western ammunition begins to deteriorate to the point of producing duds after about 20 years, hence most NATO ammunition is cycled out of service after 10 years.

By all means bury your caches of ammunition in the woods, oomans, but don't expect it to be there when you come back for it. Owt underground becomes ours. It's the law...
Most of the surplus x39 I shoot in my AKs is 1960s dated and goes bang every time, same with 54r in spam cans.I treat all Russian/Eastern Bloc milsurp ammo as corrosive and clean them thoroughly as soon after shooting as possible.
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