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Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:05 pm
by andy1979
TRG-22 wrote:snayperskaya wrote:.... when it all blows over.
Which it will.
So we've had things like SARS and H1N1, high mortality but low infectiousness.
Now we have C-19, highly infectious but low mortality.
It's the next one to worry about, when highly infections and high mortality combine...
I wouldn't say it was low mortality it's running at a 3-4% mortality rate
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:20 pm
by BamBam
Gazza wrote:
Makes you wonder if THEY want their designer virus to spead and take out the weak and elderly who are a drain on the planet.
It's a rubbish designer virus if we're all still here. It only has a R-0 of 4 at best. Weaponised smallpox or measles with a R-0 of between 12 and 18 is what you want.
This came from wildlife and China's crap animal welfare situation. The market in Wuhan where this virus originated is where they sell and slaughter exotic animals for the wealthiest Chinese palate. They stack the animals in tiny cages one on top of each other. So the sick bats as the lightest at the top of the stack s*** and puke on the animals below, pangolins in this case. The infected pangolins transmitted the virus to patient zero, probably who ever slaughtered it and didn't keep a clean station or hands for that matter. Pretty much how bird flu, SARS and swine flu started, in China and their filthy markets.
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:07 pm
by dromia
We have our own filthy markets too, just look at london with the city and its stock exchange and then of course westminster with its den of rot and corruption, parliament..
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by Gazza
BamBam wrote:Gazza wrote:
Makes you wonder if THEY want their designer virus to spead and take out the weak and elderly who are a drain on the planet.
It's a rubbish designer virus if we're all still here. It only has a R-0 of 4 at best. Weaponised smallpox or measles with a R-0 of between 12 and 18 is what you want.
This came from wildlife and China's crap animal welfare situation. The market in Wuhan where this virus originated is where they sell and slaughter exotic animals for the wealthiest Chinese palate. They stack the animals in tiny cages one on top of each other. So the sick bats as the lightest at the top of the stack s*** and puke on the animals below, pangolins in this case. The infected pangolins transmitted the virus to patient zero, probably who ever slaughtered it and didn't keep a clean station or hands for that matter. Pretty much how bird flu, SARS and swine flu started, in China and their filthy markets.
There's also the virology labs next door to the market but that's just a sheer coincidence
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:51 pm
by walesdave
On an IT conference call this morning; people were saying what they were buying because of 'the virus'.....loo-roll, hand sanitizer, food etc. Me: ammunition .
There was a bit of a quiet moment
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:13 pm
by Christel
walesdave wrote:On an IT conference call this morning; people were saying what they were buying because of 'the virus'.....loo-roll, hand sanitizer, food etc. Me: ammunition .
There was a bit of a quiet moment
nice one
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:22 pm
by Christel
Gazza wrote:
There's also the virology labs next door to the market but that's just a sheer coincidence
Dean Koonz - The Eyes of Darkness - Scary Eh
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:54 pm
by Dark Skies
snayperskaya wrote:Dark Skies wrote:
In all the End Of The World As We Know It TV shows it was never spelled out that people may spend their last days struggling over turd tissue. Humanity has no dignity.
During The Siege of Sarajevo, the longest seige of a capital city in modern warfare, toilet tissue practically became worth its weight in gold because it actually allowed people to hold on to a bit of dignity when just about everything else had been stripped away.
Those that had surplus stocks actually traded it for other items such as food, fuel and ammunition!.
'Appen as mebbe, but this is a bug not a war zone. It's ridiculous.
Wandered into Tesco today and bought some coffee and a few things for lunch. A guy was coming towards me with a trolley stacked to brimming with Andrex.
"Explosive diarrhoea is the worst, isn't it, mate?"
He looked at me like I'M the crazy one.
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:12 pm
by snayperskaya
Dark Skies wrote:snayperskaya wrote:Dark Skies wrote:
In all the End Of The World As We Know It TV shows it was never spelled out that people may spend their last days struggling over turd tissue. Humanity has no dignity.
During The Siege of Sarajevo, the longest seige of a capital city in modern warfare, toilet tissue practically became worth its weight in gold because it actually allowed people to hold on to a bit of dignity when just about everything else had been stripped away.
Those that had surplus stocks actually traded it for other items such as food, fuel and ammunition!.
'Appen as mebbe, but this is a bug not a war zone. It's ridiculous.
Wandered into Tesco today and bought some coffee and a few things for lunch. A guy was coming towards me with a trolley stacked to brimming with Andrex.
"Explosive diarrhoea is the worst, isn't it, mate?"
He looked at me like I'M the crazy one.
It was just the line about humanity having no dignity that caught my eye......whether it is a disease, war, drought or famine etc anything that keeps a bit of human dignity going is a good thing.
I wonder if this panic buying is a generational thing, with us folks over a certain age just getting on with it as usual whilst the younger generations are panicking........
Re: At what point do you batten down the hatches?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:30 pm
by Gazza
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
It will never go off so what's the problem with having a few extra in stock?