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Here is a link to a poll about stopping Grouse shooting I have voted yes
Sam

http://focusingonwildlife.com/news/poll ... -continue/

Difficult one this - as much as I dislike large organised shoots, I'm not sure I can vote to ban grouse shooting altogether...where could that lead with respect to other game shooters and hunters...?

What I would like to see is far more serious controls by the Environment Agency and DEFRA (yes I know that's laughable) to ensure that the management of such estates doesn't impact severely on the rest of the environment; including prosecutions for killing protected species, and the possible introduction of non-toxic shot (people who can afford grouse shooting can afford it)...

...it would reduce the number of grouse bred, and therefore the estates prospects of revenue.....but tough s***!

A " yes " vote is another nail in the coffin of shooting as a whole , we are no longer at the thin end of the wedge that passed us by many moons ago .

Dave

Dougan wrote:Difficult one this - as much as I dislike large organised shoots, I'm not sure I can vote to ban grouse shooting altogether...where could that lead with respect to other game shooters and hunters...?

What I would like to see is far more serious controls by the Environment Agency and DEFRA (yes I know that's laughable) to ensure that the management of such estates doesn't impact severely on the rest of the environment; including prosecutions for killing protected species, and the possible introduction of non-toxic shot (people who can afford grouse shooting can afford it)...

...it would reduce the number of grouse bred, and therefore the estates prospects of revenue.....but tough s***!

Not to mention that the management of grouse moors have resulted in increased biodiversity compared to unmanaged moorland.

After a brief stint at the vote rigging school the results have been changed and the poll has been locked.

Really democratic!

I wonder if he has taken advice from Mugabe?

Not to mention that the management of grouse moors have resulted in increased biodiversity compared to unmanaged moorland.

This ^. I think there was an article in the Telegraph about this earlier this week, but I can't find it now.

On a more relevant note, M&S are going to be stocking wild Red Grouse soon/now. Which means very tasty meals in my immediate future. Possibly with a rich, prune sauce and a full bodied red.

I'm off to Scotland for 10 days tomorrow and I'll certainly be murdering some as well as some staggies whilst I'm away.

dromia wrote:I'm off to Scotland for 10 days tomorrow and I'll certainly be murdering some as well as some staggies whilst I'm away.

:lol:

The really sad thing is that some people have become so detached from reality that they can only form relationships with animals (mainly because the animal doesn't have a choice, thats where the food comes from :roll: ), and actually believe you can murder an animal

Dave 101 wrote:A " yes " vote is another nail in the coffin of shooting as a whole , we are no longer at the thin end of the wedge that passed us by many moons ago .

Dave

N.B. The actual question in the poll was "Should "Grouse Hunting" be allowed to continue?" So when Sam said he (she?) voted 'Yes', it was actually the pro-shooting vote. Just the way he (she?) wrote the post gives the impression he (she?) voted against it, if that makes sense

Well I'd say YES it SHOULD continue if it would let me.

If it's for the pot then fine, if left to rot then NO. Since I assume most grouse are eaten what's the problem. Don't tell me it's cruel, that's just bollox. CRUEL is slitting an animals throat while someone says a prayer over it, having animals in pens waiting to be killed in the next room or dragging chickens through electrified baths to "stun" them before they hit the machines - not always successful.

I think if people are worried about animal welfare then fine, but get into reality mode and stop picking on a sector that DOES ultimately affect other shooters.

As an aside, I wish to hell those who have a pop at other shooting sport disciplines because THEY do not like it would STFU and think how asking the government to ONCE AGAIN interfere in our sport and ways of life can only have bad and unintended consequences.!