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Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:00 pm
by breacher
My LMT 308sp is heavy. I dont mind a heavy rifle and most of the weight is to the rear which is fine.

I am swapping the steel nightforce rings for nightforce ultralite rings. Then I got to thinking about the picatinny rails.........

I use a couple of inches of the top one and never use the rest. Thats 69 bits of metal all up front not being used and adding weight just where I dont want it.

Just wondered if any of you guys had machined away picatinny rails and how much weight you saved per slot removed ( if you made a note )

Also considering fluting or dimpling the barrel - any idea how much weight I would lose by doing that ?

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:39 am
by Blackstuff
The picatinny rails on my BR99's handguard are removable, I can weigh them if you want?

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:22 am
by breacher
Blackstuff wrote:The picatinny rails on my BR99's handguard are removable, I can weigh them if you want?
Thanks Mark but I was thinking about the actual "peaks" alone - machining off tbe peaks and leanlving the rest ( on a rail built into the handguard )

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:52 am
by User702
Would it not make more sense to look for a handguard (which I assume the rails are part of) that has no rails on? That way, if you ever sold it, you'd not be trying to sell a butchered rail-less rifle.

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:56 am
by Blackstuff
Ah right. I think if its just the peaks the gains, ore rather losses in weight would be minimal as obviously most of the mass is contained in the 'bar' they sit on.

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:54 pm
by ovenpaa
A rough calculation for weight is W = P x V where P is density, the density of Aluminium is equal to 2699 kilogram per cubic meter at 20C

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:57 pm
by breacher
User702 wrote:Would it not make more sense to look for a handguard (which I assume the rails are part of) that has no rails on? That way, if you ever sold it, you'd not be trying to sell a butchered rail-less rifle.
Its a LMT so a monolithic upper - thats not an option.

I was just curious how much these 69 bits of metal weigh when combined.

Thanks Ovenpaa but I dont have a means to measure the "peaks" with the degree of accuracy required.

My 99p B&Q tape measure wont do ;-)

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:02 pm
by Sim G
In the big scheme of things I really can't see it make an appreciable difference in the perceived weight.

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:07 pm
by ovenpaa
STANAG_4694_NATO_Accessory_Rail.jpg

Re: Removing unused picatinny rail - weight loss ?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:54 pm
by breacher
Ovenpaa wrote:
STANAG_4694_NATO_Accessory_Rail.jpg
I never even thought of published data !

Well - from my calculations, removing the 69 unused picatinny "peaks" would only amount to about 100 grams. Hardly worth it !

I will be losing far more by switching from steel to ultralite nightforce rings.

Will still look into barrel fluting / dimpling though.......