CIP verses SAMMI

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#11 Post by bradaz11 »

If you've done it yourself, why would you need to send it for proof unless you want to sell it?
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I have no intention of ever selling it. Its a keeper its a fun gun. I might will it to some one but no I will never sell it. That and the MAS36 plus my No 4 are favourites they have given great pleasure over the years they wont be going any were. Now my Ruger precision 6.5 Creedmoor is a different story I am debating wether to move it on. Not really my cup of tea.
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Yes.
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Have you tried: https://www.bbt.scot/products.htm ?
It's Geoffrey Kolbes' current venture, and the reamers are highly regarded.......

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#15 Post by Christel »

If you want a gun to pass proof...you will use Triebel gauges, CIP.

Any complaints to the proof house will be ignored if the above has not been used.
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Pete wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:01 pm Have you tried: https://www.bbt.scot/products.htm ?
It's Geoffrey Kolbes' current venture, and the reamers are highly regarded.......

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#17 Post by Mattnall »

Christel wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:38 pm If you want a gun to pass proof...you will use Triebel gauges, CIP.
Which Proof House?

London told me a couple of months ago that they are changing many of their gauges from Triebel to British made ones.
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#18 Post by Ovenpaa »

Last year (2021) both Birmingham and London told me this after a 1903A1 30-06 failed. The rifle went to Birmingham passed with my brand new CIP gauges and failed. I ordered in new CIP gauges and it passed GO and NO-GO, so I sent it to London (Well I had to check!) and it failed again. I was told they use Triebel and could not really do anything more as I was using something else.
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So whats so special about Triebel gauges I know they are expensive I have there catalogues. I know there reamers are expensive and out of my price range even if they would sell them to me. I know there re loading dies are mouth wateringly expensive.
I don't get this proof house thing. So you are in the trade you buy a reamer or reamers from a reputable source as well as the gauges. You cut the chamber using the gauges then you submit the rifle for proof and they fail it. Bu--s*** they should be using the gauges you used to chamber the rifle barrel. For them to pull a set of gauges of there shelf and tell you its failed is bo--ocks. Obviously its a monopoly no way would you get a way with that in the real World of Engineering.
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So whats so special about Triebel gauges I know they are expensive I have there catalogues. I know there reamers are expensive and out of my price range even if they would sell them to me. I know there re loading dies are mouth wateringly expensive.
I don't get this proof house thing. So you are in the trade you buy a reamer or reamers from a reputable source as well as the gauges. You cut the chamber using the gauges then you submit the rifle for proof and they fail it. Bu--s*** they should be using the gauges you used to chamber the rifle barrel. For them to pull a set of gauges of there shelf and tell you its failed is bo--ocks. Obviously its a monopoly no way would you get a way with that in the real World of Engineering.
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