SMLE grenade Cup

[Joe Pugh]

Hi all,

I was watching forgotten wepons on you tube and a new video showing a granade cup for a Lee Enfiled SMLE come up.

Are these legal to own in the UK? Are there any laws behind them? Can you use them?
I obviously have no intention of throwing a grenade 180 meters but maybey a tennis ball or 2 (childish maybey but I am curious). :)

Liberty Tree Cup
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... roduct=579

Forgotten weapons video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CT1DyyCxf9Q

I suppose this is something familar too these 'can cannons' beeing made in the US for the AR 15 style rifles.

Joe

[Joe Pugh]

Now looking more into it looks like they are a section 5 item.

That's a shame :(

[Ovenpaa]

I had a feeling they were S5 as well however I have no idea why.

[saddler]

Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.

[Mikaveli]

Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.

How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?

[saddler]

Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.

How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?

Read the Firearms Act.
Yes.....they ARE little more than a basic tub.
Doesn't make them any less S.5

Antique dealer examples need to be deactivated or they're illegal too.

[tackb]

Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.

How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?

Read the Firearms Act.
Yes.....they ARE little more than a basic tub.
Doesn't make them any less S.5

Antique dealer examples need to be deactivated or they're illegal too.

I'm interested in how these are section five ? They just look like a tube ? How would you deactivate one?

Thanks?

[bradaz11]

Seal up the gas port?

[saddler]

I'm interested in how these are section five ? They just look like a tube ? How would you deactivate one?

Thanks?

Firearms Act explains the reason...their ONLY use is launching explosives; zero target shooting or vermin uses.

Look like a tube as they ARE a tube.
Deactivate so they cannot vent gas from the barrel to the grenade...same as what they do to mortars or flamethrowers.
UK laws = normally as far removed from common sense as it's possible to be.

[tackb]

It's just a hole ,easily re drillable , surely you need a SMLE plus ammo and some mills bombs for these to be dangerous ?