Ball polished?

Pre 1945 action rifles. Muzzle loading.

Moderator: dromia

Message
Author
User avatar
legs748
Posts: 238
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:08 pm
Home club or Range: Mattersey R&PC
Location: North Nottinghamshire
Contact:

Ball polished?

#1 Post by legs748 »

I was having a look at a P14 at auction the other week. On the right side of the foresight in line with the barrel were engraved the words "Ball Polished". Anyone know what this signifies?
It was working when i left it...........
User avatar
Les
Site Supporter Since 2015
Posts: 4561
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:19 pm
Home club or Range: WRPC
Location: Runcorn, via Africa and parts unknown.
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#2 Post by Les »

A very conscientious soldier, perhaps? wtf
User avatar
dromia
Site Admin
Posts: 19991
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 am
Home club or Range: The Highlands of Scotland. Cycling Proficiency 1964. Felton & District rifle club. Teesdale Pistol and Rifle club.
Location: Sutherland and Co Durham
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#3 Post by dromia »

It refers to a barrel smoothing process.
Image

Come on Bambi get some

Imperial Good Metric Bad
Analogue Good Digital Bad

Fecking stones

Real farmers don't need subsidies

Cow's farts matter!

For fine firearms and requisites visit

http://www.pukkabundhooks.com/
waterford103
Site Supporter Since 2018
Posts: 1029
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:34 pm
Home club or Range: Aberdeen FBGC
Location: North-East Scotland
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#4 Post by waterford103 »

Ball burnished was a common thing on military rifles , I had a couple of Enfields with "ball burnished " barrels .
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
Adolph Hitler – 1933
User avatar
meles meles
Site Supporter Since 2020
Posts: 6333
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:17 pm
Home club or Range: HBSA
Location: Underground
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#5 Post by meles meles »

We googled 'ball polishing' and wish we hadn't. GCHQ listened in and our case comes up at the Magistrate's Court tomorrow morning....
Badger
CEO (Chief Excavatin' Officer)
Badger Korporashun



Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
"Quelle style, so British"
User avatar
legs748
Posts: 238
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:08 pm
Home club or Range: Mattersey R&PC
Location: North Nottinghamshire
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#6 Post by legs748 »

dromia wrote:It refers to a barrel smoothing process.
waterford103 wrote:Ball burnished was a common thing on military rifles , I had a couple of Enfields with "ball burnished " barrels .
So one question leads to more. Who by? Why? And what's involved?

It looked like it had been used for target shooting, having a target swivel in front of the mag, but had the original volley sights present, wish I had bid on it now.
It was working when i left it...........
User avatar
GeeRam
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:58 pm
Home club or Range: PSC, Bisley
Location: Berks
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#7 Post by GeeRam »

legs748 wrote:
dromia wrote:It refers to a barrel smoothing process.
waterford103 wrote:Ball burnished was a common thing on military rifles , I had a couple of Enfields with "ball burnished " barrels .
So one question leads to more. Who by? Why? And what's involved?

It looked like it had been used for target shooting, having a target swivel in front of the mag, but had the original volley sights present, wish I had bid on it now.
Likely candidates would be Parker-Hale, AGP or one of the other post war Enfield target specialists that targetised war-surplus rifles etc.

Have seen a number of 'targetised' SMLE/No.4 with ball-burnished target barrels fitted etc.
Laurie
Posts: 650
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:20 pm

Re: Ball polished?

#8 Post by Laurie »

I've always assumed that 'ball burnishing' was used to obtain the same results as hand-lapping or 'lead-lapping' in modern custom barrels from outfits like Krieger, Bartlein, GB Barrels etc., in fact would be more valuable in those days.

Even with the very careful boring and then painfully slow rifling process that is done in a modern cut-rifled match barrel, there are tiny tool marks left all over the machined surfaces. Lapping smooths them out and aids barrel run-in and also gives a more uniform bore diameter the entire barrel length. Given that these were selected service rifles / components, barrel interiors were likely a lot rougher off the machinery, so 'burnishing' would be a valuable process, although whether as good as hand-lapping by an experienced operator?
Lever357
Posts: 460
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:10 pm
Home club or Range: Louisa Centre
Location: Newcastle UponTyne
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#9 Post by Lever357 »

meles meles wrote:We googled 'ball polishing' and wish we hadn't. GCHQ listened in and our case comes up at the Magistrate's Court tomorrow morning....
signfunnypost lol lol lol lol
Remember, we're all here because we're not all there!
Robert303
Posts: 336
Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:06 am
Home club or Range: Vintage Arms Scotland. Full voting HBSA member
Location: Near Edinburgh
Contact:

Re: Ball polished?

#10 Post by Robert303 »

It was done by Parker Hale. I cannot remember the whole process but you will find it in one of their catalogues 1950s to 60s.r
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests