Mosin shooting low

Pre 1945 action rifles. Muzzle loading.

Moderator: dromia

Message
Author
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Mosin shooting low

#1 Post by froggy »

Privet tovarichi,

May I introduce you to Katariina my Mosin crossed Finn M39.

Image

I previously shot her scoped and I took her iron sights to 300 on saturday only to realize she shoots 12/15 inches low. Strangely M39 have the reputation for shotting high with with the modern Russian mil-surp I was using. I ended up getting the correct elevation by using the 400 grad on my back sight to achieve PoA/PoI at 300.

Any idea what's going on ?
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
User avatar
Dark Skies
Posts: 2825
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:02 am
Home club or Range: NRA
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#2 Post by Dark Skies »

I have an M38 and an M44 so not the same beast but ... I seem to recall reading somewhere that the (M39) foresight has a number that ought to match a number stamped on the barrel behind the base when it was zeroed. Might be a starting point.
"I don't like my job and I don't think I'm gonna go anymore."
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#3 Post by froggy »

Ups ... I tinckered with the front sight to tune the windage and did not even realised there is a number ... :oops:
Thanks for the tip, I'll have a good look :good:
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#4 Post by froggy »

the (M39) foresight has a number that ought to match a number stamped on the barrel behind the base when it was zeroed

Further to your tip, I did some "internet search" into it & many thanks, you were 100% right :good:

Strangely my post war arsenal refurbised rifle (according to the type of wood) does not have either a numbered front sight blade number nor that corresponding number stamped on its "SA VKT" barrel.
The un-marked blade is very high at nearly 9 mm. I managed to find a 7.2 mm that I ordered.

Does anybody has the mathematical formula to work out what would be the correct size to drop the 300 yards / 275 meters PoA/PoI by 10/12 inches pls ?
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
kevinww
Posts: 153
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:42 am
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#5 Post by kevinww »

Use same formulae for calculating MOA, discussed here :- https://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33069 use sight base length as distance.

By my reckoning you need around 0.5mm shorter.
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#6 Post by froggy »

Thanks VM Kevinww . That sounds about right .

I found this http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... ade-Height
With a M39 sight radius of 58 cm, depending if my PoA/PoI is indeed 12' or 15' inches lower, I find that I should replace the front blade with one .8 or .6.5 mm shorter.
I'll try out that.72 piggy in the middle and see if Ivan gets it in the chest or the belly ;)
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#7 Post by froggy »

New Bisley outing on saturday for Karariina . 300 yards with the usual Rusky mil-surp.
Still have not fitted a lower front blade, so elevation at 400 meters
Attachments
89DB005A-47F6-48E3-BC09-90E3E54D3C21.jpeg
DE53CB92-29BF-4C18-B88A-DFFC61B0B119.jpeg
DCFA9CF6-F474-4E8C-A166-C6D8874008ED.jpeg
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
User avatar
froggy
Past Supporter
Posts: 4968
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm
Home club or Range: HPRP (UK) + Corsaires Malouins (France) + Czech Rep
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#8 Post by froggy »

Next time I’ll shot her using the PU scope .
Happy froggy O:-)

PS - Katariina seriously starts distracting me from the k98 ...
Attachments
27BC8B48-54EF-4E02-9803-4EDA1EA34BD0.jpeg
22DE8D2D-A547-4818-97AA-E2414051B143.jpeg
Want to shoot pistol ? Don't retreat... reload & run forward !!
http://dynamicshootingcz.co.uk/
User avatar
GeeRam
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:58 pm
Home club or Range: PSC, Bisley
Location: Berks
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#9 Post by GeeRam »

froggy wrote: PS - Katariina seriously starts distracting me from the k98 ...
:o troutslapping
User avatar
meles meles
Site Supporter Since 2020
Posts: 6333
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:17 pm
Home club or Range: HBSA
Location: Underground
Contact:

Re: Mosin shooting low

#10 Post by meles meles »

Did you think of aiming higher, Froggers ?
Badger
CEO (Chief Excavatin' Officer)
Badger Korporashun



Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
"Quelle style, so British"
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests