Pistol shooting - political

[David Nimrod]

I seem to remember that the Tory Gvnt (pre-catastrophic Blair lunacy) was floating the idea of restricting hand-guns to 22lr that would be kept at clubs premises ?

I remember something like that too...

However I really can't raise much enthusiasm for shooting a .22LR 'Club Gun'.

Others may disagree of course.

I'd welcome *any* relaxation of the Law, but would only be satisfied by a return to pre '97 rules.

[froggy]

I appreciate what you say Nimrod but one has to face the reality of the situation .
BTW, technically speaking, all my Czech toys are owned by a club. I just happen to have subsidised them & therefore I am the only person allowed to shoot them. I don't regret for a second going down that way...

[David Nimrod]

I appreciate what you say Nimrod but one has to face the reality of the situation

Oh, I do...

And not for an instant do I believe that full bore handguns will again be legal in the UK...

[Gazoo]

It will never come back because we were so comprehensively stitched up and sold down the river by those very organizations who were supposed to be representing us at the time .
They, and we, all know who they are, they are still walking round in panama hats with the correct tie or cravat and will NEVER represent anyone that is different.
I didnt go to Oxford or Cambridge, don't have an old regiment tie, not a magistrate in the home counties and bisley is not my local range ....so I'm screwed.
I know people will say that this is negativity and we will never go forward by raking over the past BUT, they haven't gone away you know!!!
By the way laser target games do not count as shooting.

[David Nimrod]

They, and we, all know who they are, they are still walking round in panama hats with the correct tie or cravat and will NEVER represent anyone that is different.

I didnt go to Oxford or Cambridge, don't have an old regiment tie, not a magistrate in the home counties and bisley is not my local range ....so I'm screwed.

Agreed!

The English class system is alive and well.

And continues to oppress us, as shooters.

[Kungfugerbil]

By the way laser target games do not count as shooting.

Indeed - but that's what the ISSF and therefore British Shooting have moved to for some disciplines.

Playing Devil's Advocate (and it's most certainly not my personal view), what purpose do full-bore handguns serve in mainland UK? Not for hunting for sure, and using against humans is not encouraged. Obviously humane dispatch, but rules exist for them. Target? What distances are they shot at? If 10yds and 25m, air is perfectly capable of the same. The 50m and or rapid fire cartridge disciplines are obviously outside of this, but then that's smallbore...

I would be delighted if full-bore handguns made a return, but can you imagine debating it in Parliament?

[David Nimrod]

The last thing most shooters need, is a Devil's Advocate

[pbrazendale]

The frustrating thing for me is that the handgun ban has made no difference to gun crime in my opinion, if your a criminal with intent I'm sure you can acquire a handgun if you really want to. The issue for me is education, I would imagine the majority of MP's are clueless and would therefore just say 'No', if however you could somehow get your well thought out and reasonable argument across to the masses and maybe a section of the shooting community could do this, and we could get MP's listening or even attending shoots then we have more of a chance. We need a serious movement of people to get it going and even then it may never happen but you've got to start somewhere.


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[David Nimrod]

We need a serious movement of people to get it going...

Can't see that ever happening in England... aaarggh

[Blackstuff]

By the way laser target games do not count as shooting.

Indeed - but that's what the ISSF and therefore British Shooting have moved to for some disciplines.

Playing Devil's Advocate (and it's most certainly not my personal view), what purpose do full-bore handguns serve in mainland UK? Obviously humane dispatch, but rules exist for them. Target? What distances are they shot at? If 10yds and 25m, air is perfectly capable of the same. The 50m and or rapid fire cartridge disciplines are obviously outside of this, but then that's smallbore...

Or you could actually do something fun with them....