Firearms Smart Water Kit
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Firearms Smart Water Kit
I am absolutely annoyed and exasperated, I've just received a flyer through the post via a mailshot from the
Met regarding firearms safe storage and offering me a Smart Water Kit for £8.95.
The first thing that came to mind is they have used a mailshot company to send this out. So potentially a scrote that works for the mailing company will have access to a complete list of all addresses in the Met area where firearms are kept.
Met regarding firearms safe storage and offering me a Smart Water Kit for £8.95.
The first thing that came to mind is they have used a mailshot company to send this out. So potentially a scrote that works for the mailing company will have access to a complete list of all addresses in the Met area where firearms are kept.
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You couldn't make it up could you. On one hand their banging on about increased levels of gun crime and the need for safe storage and security and on the other handing out lists of gun owner's names and addresses to third party companies.
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Aside from anything else, what additional security would dabbing some tracable liquid on firearms do in the situation where they are stolen?
Firearms related crimes carry a mandatory minimum of 5 years, so being caught with it whether it's got smart water or not, would get you in deep doo-doo. Do they think criminals would be put off by them being marked with tracable liquid?
Get real.
The security ramifications of this are astounding though. You're right. A list of firearms owners not just to the third party company, but also to every mail handler that saw these posters going out. Disgusting.
Firearms related crimes carry a mandatory minimum of 5 years, so being caught with it whether it's got smart water or not, would get you in deep doo-doo. Do they think criminals would be put off by them being marked with tracable liquid?
Get real.
The security ramifications of this are astounding though. You're right. A list of firearms owners not just to the third party company, but also to every mail handler that saw these posters going out. Disgusting.
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On the other hand, a pair of decent shotguns stolen to order for resale or as collectables might benefit from such a system.
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Surely any such stolen shotguns will be carrying a serial number which when trying to register with the force will be flagged as stolen...?Pete wrote:On the other hand, a pair of decent shotguns stolen to order for resale or as collectables might benefit from such a system.
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And I received two of them!
At a rough guess they would have cost anywhere from 50p to £1 to produce and send - probably nearer £1.
An FAC renewal is £62 and a Shotgun renewal £49. A Co-terminus is just £65 or £3 more than an FAC
So, 30% of the fee paid to have a co-terminus certificate has been swallowed up by this mail shot.
At a rough guess they would have cost anywhere from 50p to £1 to produce and send - probably nearer £1.
An FAC renewal is £62 and a Shotgun renewal £49. A Co-terminus is just £65 or £3 more than an FAC
So, 30% of the fee paid to have a co-terminus certificate has been swallowed up by this mail shot.
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What did they say when you rang and asked them if this was the case?kevinww wrote: The first thing that came to mind is they have used a mailshot company to send this out.
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Matt, Didn't need to ring and ask as the envelope it came in gave the company name and return address if undelivered.Mattnall wrote:What did they say when you rang and asked them if this was the case?kevinww wrote: The first thing that came to mind is they have used a mailshot company to send this out.
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So have you put your concerns to the Met? There's always the possibility the task was handed to someone who doesn't appreciate the ramifications.
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Don't rock the boat too much!Pete wrote:So have you put your concerns to the Met? There's always the possibility the task was handed to someone who doesn't appreciate the ramifications.
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I have spoken to BASC about this and they are looking into it and will speak to the Met. I will wait to hear back from them and see what has been said, then maybe mention it when I have the opportunity to speak with the Commissioner and her Deputies and Assistants in a few weeks time
There is also the Data Protection Act to consider ...
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