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Well my clubs have never heard from the couldrey fellow and as far as shooting in the north is concerned he might as well not exist for all the difference he is making, I am glad that your MoD ranges are fit for civilian purpose most of ours are not. Good ranges in one area does not justify bad ranges in other areas. So how many regional ranges has this fellow actually started himself rather than piggy backing on the success and work of others, Where is their national strategic plan with outcomes for the development of shooting, that would be an essential tool surely for any "national" organisation. What about regional meetings how often to they happen so that he can learn and know issues, I have yet to hear of one in the NE.

When I see the nra making a meaningful difference to the target shooting then I will review my opinion, the nra nationally (along with the other national shysters) let us get shafted on every turn, Dr's fee's, FAC fees, two RCO courses needed now for no other apparent reason than than the MoD said their course was longer with no reference to content, lever release ban, firearms certification departments making up firearms law as they go along with no challenge, multiple insurance costs with other national and body membership insurances, etc etc etc. They may be writing the odd letter and attending the odd meeting but when push comes to shove it is the lack of results that shows their lack of effectiveness. For all the "success" their propaganda tool the journal tells us the reality is very different for many shooters. All well and good telling us how wonderful Bisley is but it is a place too remote for many to get to and the success there with failure elsewhere is just rubbing salt into wounds for those that struggle will real MoD range issues with no support.

So the nra is now Bisley shooting club with an outreach worker, now that is very "national".

Just for the record I am not criticising this couldrey, one person is totally insufficient resource for the scale of the task, one person out of all the Bisley staff for the rest of the country just illustrates further the contempt that the nra holds the rest of the non Bisley visiting shooters with.

There has been much reporting, (and misreporting) on this subject in the national press and on the internet. I would suggest both parties could have done a lot better if they were prepared to listen to each other at the very start of the rent review.

Mick I never saw any thing about this in the national press but just did a quick internet search and it came up with the story reported in a local Surrey newspaper and a statement put out by the NRA. The amounts mentioned as paid by the NRA in legal fees with regard to the re-negotiation of the leases for various clubs at Bisley is absolutely astounding, far more than I could ever have imagined and makes me now believe that what I was told about the Artists club is actually totally credible, (previously I was slightly dubious). As is often the case the only ones who seem to have benefited from this whole affair are the lawyers.

As you say it is possible that this could have been resolved much earlier and without the need to resort to the courts if all the parties involved had entered into meaningful negotiation at an early stage.

I've been every got about 12 years.

Today was by far and away the smallest and quietest I've by a long way.

Bit surprised

Mercer has been there 6 years .

I doubt if any council member has less than 10 years NRA membership .

Hardly a new crew .

Well my clubs have never heard from the couldrey fellow