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Short Siberia 200yd restrictions

#1 Post by shugie »

I've been told that our club booking on Short Siberia this coming weekend has been moved from 200yds to 100yds, as the 200yd firing point can only now be booked on the last weekend of the month. No idea of the reason, Century Butt 19 will be 300yd minimum at weekends as well, so where can we shoot McQueens now?

Be interesting to learn why these changes have been made at what seems quite short notice, nothing about them on the NRA website.

Been a little too much late notice range changes recently, hope they can themselves sorted sharpish.
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#2 Post by mag41uk »

It was in the recent NRA email news letter to members.
I was surprised to read that demand for 100yds is greater than demand for 200 yards.
I would have thought it to be the other way round.
I have always preferred 200 over 100 certainly with milsurps.
And as you say McQueens.
Not sure about minimum of 300 on century either.
I see the 300 metre hut has been put into more use including McQueens.
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#3 Post by Maggot »

mag41uk wrote:It was in the recent NRA email news letter to members.
I was surprised to read that demand for 100yds is greater than demand for 200 yards.
I would have thought it to be the other way round.
I have always preferred 200 over 100 certainly with milsurps.
And as you say McQueens.
Not sure about minimum of 300 on century either.
I see the 300 metre hut has been put into more use including McQueens.
That's quite a good challenge!
Puzzling over all!
I believe that the 300 at that end might be something to do with them not wanting to put the electronic target gear in and out every 5 minutes....ONO.

As for 100 over 200.... I dont get that either although you can do most things at 100 you can at 200 with a rep target, and the wind is relative.

It may not blow the bullet about much but it will blow the firer about asmuch at 100 as it will at 2 (If you are kneeling etc).
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#4 Post by artiglio »

As I understand it, to accomodate two distances there needs to be 8 clear targets as a safety zone, so to accomodate 200 and 300 on century and allow for 600 yard shooting you'd need to allow 16 targets unused. This would increase if there were requests for 400 or 500 yard targets.
Whilst these restrictions may seem a little over the top on quieter weekends, they'll no doubt be needed once the weather improves and range demand increases.
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#5 Post by Jamesnixon »

They use the 200 mil rule (11.25') to identify the lane to use for different distances, which will have implications on availability at peak times.
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#6 Post by Maggot »

artiglio wrote:As I understand it, to accomodate two distances there needs to be 8 clear targets as a safety zone, so to accomodate 200 and 300 on century and allow for 600 yard shooting you'd need to allow 16 targets unused. This would increase if there were requests for 400 or 500 yard targets.
Whilst these restrictions may seem a little over the top on quieter weekends, they'll no doubt be needed once the weather improves and range demand increases.
Thats the one, 8 per 100 yard fall back. You would lose a lot more than 8 back at 600.

They usually manage but things will change when it gets busy.
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#7 Post by Mattnall »

The 100yds firing point on Siberia takes up more lanes now and more targets as the demand is greater, and 200 can be accommodated on Century.
To get the extra 100yds targets on Century would reduce the longer distance targets on the range so Siberia's 100yd firing points have been increased for a few extra days of the month.
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Mattnall wrote:The 100yds firing point on Siberia takes up more lanes now and more targets as the demand is greater, and 200 can be accommodated on Century.
To get the extra 100yds targets on Century would reduce the longer distance targets on the range so Siberia's 100yd firing points have been increased for a few extra days of the month.
That's probably come about because the police monopolize 100 yards Short Siberia during the week - even when they aren't shooting. This means a lot of people that used to enjoy a relaxed shoot on Short Siberia during the week - convenient for those of us with choppy working hours - are now forced to shoot weekends with everybody else. For years, regardless of the weather, we could shoot Short Siberia 200 yards whenever we had a a spare moment convenient.
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#9 Post by Maggot »

Dark Skies wrote:
Mattnall wrote:The 100yds firing point on Siberia takes up more lanes now and more targets as the demand is greater, and 200 can be accommodated on Century.
To get the extra 100yds targets on Century would reduce the longer distance targets on the range so Siberia's 100yd firing points have been increased for a few extra days of the month.
That's probably come about because the police monopolize 100 yards Short Siberia during the week - even when they aren't shooting. This means a lot of people that used to enjoy a relaxed shoot on Short Siberia during the week - convenient for those of us with choppy working hours - are now forced to shoot weekends with everybody else. For years, regardless of the weather, we could shoot Short Siberia 200 yards whenever we had a a spare moment convenient.
Or you could just do what everyone else does and shoot on Century at 100 during the week ;)

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#10 Post by Dark Skies »

Maggot wrote:
Dark Skies wrote:
Mattnall wrote:The 100yds firing point on Siberia takes up more lanes now and more targets as the demand is greater, and 200 can be accommodated on Century.
To get the extra 100yds targets on Century would reduce the longer distance targets on the range so Siberia's 100yd firing points have been increased for a few extra days of the month.
That's probably come about because the police monopolize 100 yards Short Siberia during the week - even when they aren't shooting. This means a lot of people that used to enjoy a relaxed shoot on Short Siberia during the week - convenient for those of us with choppy working hours - are now forced to shoot weekends with everybody else. For years, regardless of the weather, we could shoot Short Siberia 200 yards whenever we had a a spare moment convenient.
Or you could just do what everyone else does and shoot on Century at 100 during the week ;)

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