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#1 Post by Alpha1 »

Dear Club Member

Ammunition restriction on Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) ranges in the UK.

The Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) has notified the NRA that affiliated target shooting clubs may not use 100 % lead free ammunition (for example ammunition used by deer stalkers) on Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) ranges.

This restriction applies throughout the United Kingdom and comes into immediate effect.

Should you require further clarification please contact me.

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#2 Post by toffe wrapper »

Same rule has been enforce @ Bisley for ages as below.

b. Projectiles that are not constructed of pure lead, lead alloy, or a lead core with a jacket of gilding metal or soft iron. Lead-free mono-metallic bullets may be used during specific events that are controlled and planned by the NSC. They are otherwise forbidden.

Lets hope it helps with retaining lead ammunition for target shooting.
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The none lead thing is about carcases that are going into the food chain. Shooting lead projectiles at targets that are going to end up in a pile of sand I can understand why that isn't an issue. Lets hope they stick to there guns on the issue.
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Nic has been very helpful with getting our new range up and running.
Along with Iain Robertson, both have been invaluable to the whole process from design to running and managing a commercial range.
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#5 Post by dromia »

Whilst it is undoubtedly helpful towards challenging the increasing anti lead drive it also denies the game shooters, many of whose permissions now stipulate non lead bullets, the opportunity to test and develop meaningful loads for their rifles.

I know of at least dozen stalkers who are members of full bore clubs using MOD ranges for the sole purpose of live quarry load development.

What are the MOD's reasons for banning non lead ammunition?
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dromia wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:48 am What are the MOD's reasons for banning non lead ammunition?
From what I remember when I did my RCO course, monolithic bullets are banned because they are a ricochet concern. Where a purely lead or jacketed lead core bullet will splat on impact, the monolithic bullets tend not to.

The instructor had several examples recovered from ranges that had slightly bent tips but that was about it.

I can't say either way how true it is because I've not tested it myself. However I have no reason to doubt the instructor.
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If it is actually the case then it bodes not well for use in the hunting field.
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#8 Post by Mattnall »

I think it is a ricochet concern because no one has done the maths to see if a ricochet can be kept in the range danger area/template or not.

Until they do the sums it will stay banned. As they (MoD) don't shoot monolithic bullets they won't be funding the investigation just now.

Looking around backstops and danger areas over the years I have found many bullets with just a bent tip, especially the old .303.
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#9 Post by toffe wrapper »

Also like to say how helpful Nic is.
He was quick with sorting something for us when using MOD ranges.
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RDC wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:55 am
dromia wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:48 am What are the MOD's reasons for banning non lead ammunition?
From what I remember when I did my RCO course, monolithic bullets are banned because they are a ricochet concern. Where a purely lead or jacketed lead core bullet will splat on impact, the monolithic bullets tend not to.

The instructor had several examples recovered from ranges that had slightly bent tips but that was about it.

I can't say either way how true it is because I've not tested it myself. However I have no reason to doubt the instructor.
you should try walking down a military range, they are littered with almost perfect bullets and ones with bent noses !
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