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I'm sorry if I've ruffled any feathers over this. But having never seen one let alone held one I assumed it was a License from a Licensing Unit

I will know for future reference

You need to be licensed to acquire and keep explosives, to own and use firearms you are certified as a person fit to do that is all that is needed, along with security commensurate with the risk and good reason, meet these criteria and your certificate cannot be denied.

I guess the difference is that a "Licence" implies you have full access to buy and keep what you want that falls under that licence. Whereas with an FAC you are only permitted to buy what is agreed to. For example a drivers licence allows you to buy and drive any car that falls under that category without restriction assuming insurance and other laws are upheld.

Matt101 wrote:

dromia wrote:

Matt101 wrote: Willing to hold it until I get my licence then I will go and collect. That's if it all goes ok.

You don't get a Licence you get a certificate, there is no such thing as a firearms licence it is a Certificate.

The police don't have firearms licensing departments the have Firearms certification and Explosives licensing departments.

Thanks for clearing that up. Maybe I should have a word with the FEO then when he comes.

https://www.warwickshire.police.uk/flu/ ... slicensing

This is GMP's website:
https://www.gmp.police.uk/ar/applyregis ... -and-fees/

dromia wrote:

Matt101 wrote: Willing to hold it until I get my licence then I will go and collect. That's if it all goes ok.

You don't get a Licence you get a certificate, there is no such thing as a firearms licence it is a Certificate.

The police don't have firearms licensing departments the have Firearms certification and Explosives licensing departments.

Police forces most definately do have Firearms Licensing Departments.

dromia wrote:

Matt101 wrote: Willing to hold it until I get my licence then I will go and collect. That's if it all goes ok.

You don't get a Licence you get a certificate, there is no such thing as a firearms licence it is a Certificate.

Not strictly true, museums get a Firearms Licence

Different from an individual certificate, the departments bread and butter activity is firearm and shotgun certificates followed no doubt by RFD certificates.

The fact that they even get their titles wrong shows that they don't know what they do. However this basic error and misrepresentation doesn't surprise me when I see the mess firearms/shotgun certification is in across the country.

dromia wrote: The fact that they even get their titles wrong shows that they don't know what they do. However this basic error and misrepresentation doesn't surprise me

Don't get me started on the whole calibre/cartridge-size scenario.

To address what the OP was asking about here's my experience and thoughts on the matter.

I've recently started shooting full bore after many years of shooting all sorts of air and CO2 stuff and .22RF. One of my favourite scopes for air and rimfire has been the MTC Mamba Lite SCB, I've got three of them and used them a lot out to 100m or so. When I got my first CF, a .308, earlier this year I wasn't sure about what types of reticle, magnification, zoom and objective combination to settle on so I put a 4-16 x42 Mamba on it. Zeroed at 100m, used successfully on steel plates out to 600yds and got my first Red stag with it at a measured 175m. I was able to place the shot where I wanted it with the scope and rifle combination.

A month ago I acquired a .223 and put a Mamba on that, zeroed at 100m and it's done that job just fine.

With this in mind I've been thinking about my use of these two rifles and which way to go with scopes. I am likely to use the .308 mostly for stalking and occasional range use, the .223 mostly for range use to 600yds and occasionally hunting. I'm also going to add a 6.5 Creedmoor for longer range target use at some stage.

I've decided to go for a Minox ZX5i 3-15x56 #4 reticle for the .308, this has good light transmission for dawn and dusk and a simple hunting orientated illuminated reticle. I'm unlikeley to be altering the zero on this for stalking.

The other scope I'm interested in is the Zeiss V4 6-24X50 ZMOA-1 with a ballistic turret on the elevation. This would initially go on the .223 and possibly transfer to the 6.5 at a later stage. The ballistic turret allows it to be accurately brought back to zero after dialling other ranges in and the turret is nicely set up for calibration of different ranges. The reticle is unfussy and IMHO great for paper and metal target shooting.

I can get both scopes for a total of just over £1100, £550 for the Minox and £575 for the Zeiss, which is all I really want to pay to move up from the budget Mambas. If I was going for just one of these for using in all the above situations it would be probably be the Zeiss due to more frequent range use and the ballistic turret function. Having said that I've happily been able to make do with using the Mambas in the interim.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Mick

micken wrote:To address what the OP was asking about here's my experience and thoughts on the matter.

I've recently started shooting full bore after many years of shooting all sorts of air and CO2 stuff and .22RF. One of my favourite scopes for air and rimfire has been the MTC Mamba Lite SCB, I've got three of them and used them a lot out to 100m or so. When I got my first CF, a .308, earlier this year I wasn't sure about what types of reticle, magnification, zoom and objective combination to settle on so I put a 4-16 x42 Mamba on it. Zeroed at 100m, used successfully on steel plates out to 600yds and got my first Red stag with it at a measured 175m. I was able to place the shot where I wanted it with the scope and rifle combination.

A month ago I acquired a .223 and put a Mamba on that, zeroed at 100m and it's done that job just fine.

With this in mind I've been thinking about my use of these two rifles and which way to go with scopes. I am likely to use the .308 mostly for stalking and occasional range use, the .223 mostly for range use to 600yds and occasionally hunting. I'm also going to add a 6.5 Creedmoor for longer range target use at some stage.

I've decided to go for a Minox ZX5i 3-15x56 #4 reticle for the .308, this has good light transmission for dawn and dusk and a simple hunting orientated illuminated reticle. I'm unlikeley to be altering the zero on this for stalking.

The other scope I'm interested in is the Zeiss V4 6-24X50 ZMOA-1 with a ballistic turret on the elevation. This would initially go on the .223 and possibly transfer to the 6.5 at a later stage. The ballistic turret allows it to be accurately brought back to zero after dialling other ranges in and the turret is nicely set up for calibration of different ranges. The reticle is unfussy and IMHO great for paper and metal target shooting.

I can get both scopes for a total of just over £1100, £550 for the Minox and £575 for the Zeiss, which is all I really want to pay to move up from the budget Mambas. If I was going for just one of these for using in all the above situations it would be probably be the Zeiss due to more frequent range use and the ballistic turret function. Having said that I've happily been able to make do with using the Mambas in the interim.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Mick

Thanks Mick