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Blackstuff wrote:
That said its at least 5 years since I've had any contact so maybe he's turned things around

I too have had three SGC rifles in the past, the first I bought with some of the 30 pieces of silver given in handgun compensation.... no, his approach to his customers was the same then and I can't imagine for a second he's turned anything around! But for a long time he was "the only game in town"...

One of the funniest things I saw with Bob, was at Phoenix and he was in his usual spot. Mark Bradley, who I'd known for years and before he starting building guns, got a table no more than 10 yards from SGC.... made everyone laugh except one!

Sim G wrote:

Blackstuff wrote:
That said its at least 5 years since I've had any contact so maybe he's turned things around

I too have had three SGC rifles in the past, the first I bought with some of the 30 pieces of silver given in handgun compensation.... no, his approach to his customers was the same then and I can't imagine for a second he's turned anything around! But for a long time he was "the only game in town"...

One of the funniest things I saw with Bob, was at Phoenix and he was in his usual spot. Mark Bradley, who I'd known for years and before he starting building guns, got a table no more than 10 yards from SGC.... made everyone laugh except one!

That I would have enjoyed watching, having bought a gun from Mark, he was quite the character.

Sim G wrote:

Blackstuff wrote:
But for a long time he was "the only game in town"...

to be fair he once again is the only game in town and assuming he patented the action he may remain so for quite some time.

Though i would certainly like to see if someone else can come up with a similar lever action system with detachable magazine

SGCs first foray into “lever action” wasn’t a success due to its awkwardness. Likewise, I’m not sure this will be such a raving success, lever guns don’t lend themselves to hard primary extraction.

But, despite the unapproachable demeanour of the man, he certainly can’t be knocked for his innovation or quality of product. Personally, I’m going to wait for a Lantac straight pull 9mm

Sim G wrote:SGCs first foray into “lever action” wasn’t a success due to its awkwardness. Likewise, I’m not sure this will be such a raving success, lever guns don’t lend themselves to hard primary extraction.

But, despite the unapproachable demeanour of the man, he certainly can’t be knocked for his innovation or quality of product. Personally, I’m going to wait for a Lantac straight pull 9mm

I get the sense that might be a long wait (as a newbie at GEC Hirst I recall getting sent to stores for a long weight) but it raises an interesting question, which is the faster to operate for the faster gallery rifle events, straight pull, conventional lever action or this SGC version?

Very interesting looking!

Any chance of a quick video to see what it looks like in action?

I don't suppose anybody else has bought one of these? I've got a 9mm slot and I'm struggling to decide between one of these and a straight-pull. I have yet to see the SGC in action and as far as I can see Shooting Supplies are the only retailer selling them.

There's a vid of someone shooting one on youtube - action looks very smooth. Haven't seen one in the flesh though.

GlockworkOrange wrote:I don't suppose anybody else has bought one of these? I've got a 9mm slot and I'm struggling to decide between one of these and a straight-pull. I have yet to see the SGC in action and as far as I can see Shooting Supplies are the only retailer selling them.

Seems SGC is the only source for 9mm straight pull, Lantac seem to have gone quiet about theirs, and I'm not sure if Calibre Innovations are still doing their 9mm Ciscar. I tried one of the prototypes and it was nice to shoot, if a bit longer in the barrel than I would chose, but it had an irksome habit of spinning the empty cartridge through 180 degrees to jam in the magazine (Uzi).

shugie wrote:Seems SGC is the only source for 9mm straight pull, Lantac seem to have gone quiet about theirs, and I'm not sure if Calibre Innovations are still doing their 9mm Ciscar.

There's talk on the Facebook Lever Release page about a Schmeisser one coming out (as in a Schmeisser AR15 style).