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Re: Caption this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:00 pm
by dromia
TobyH wrote:What Christel says (almost), you don't have to believe in a deity of any sort. The whole point, as was discussed earlier, religion is banned.
So atheists are eligible to join then, even when they don't believe in a supreme being?
Re: Caption this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:04 pm
by Alpha1
Lets start a new religion then we can all join lets worship guns we could call it shooeterism.
We might be able to get charity status or even a lottery grant to build a church with lots of 25yd pews. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Caption this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:07 pm
by Robin128
Shall we call it the Christel Lodge?
You prepared to bare your breast Alpha1???
:roll: :lol: :lol:
Re: Caption this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:14 pm
by dromia
There is no way I'd join anything that would let someone like me in.
With due defference to Mr Marx.
Re: Caption this
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:38 pm
by TobyH
So atheists are eligible to join then, even when they don't believe in a supreme being?
Yes. It's not relevant what you believe in.
Re: Caption this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:37 am
by Christel
Surely that goes against being an atheist....that there is nothing to believe in.
I know it is not important what you believe in but you have to believe in something. So atheists are out, surely?
Re: Caption this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:27 am
by dromia
TobyH wrote:So atheists are eligible to join then, even when they don't believe in a supreme being?
Yes. It's not relevant what you believe in.
There seems to be confusion about this then in the masonic community, I asked a friend last night who is a mason and he was adamant that atheists could not be members having no belief.
Re: Caption this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:03 am
by TobyH
Will have to speak to my father.
Is it enough to believe in the right way to live, common sense, helping others, doing good deeds without reward? Do you have to believe in (what is in my opinion) un-substatiated gods rather than the good of human nature?
Re: Caption this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:08 am
by TobyH
Or put it another way, is believing in nothing any different from believing in something that might not exist?
Re: Caption this
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:01 pm
by Robin128
"A 'Book of the Law' (Volume of Sacred Law or VSL) shall constitute an indispensable part of the furniture of every Lodge. Advisedly, any Book of the Law because it is not absolutely required that the Bible be used. The 'Book of the Law' is that volume which, by the religion of the Mason, is believed to contain the revealed will of the Grand Architect of the Universe."
http://www.formermasons.org/issues/volu ... ed_law.php