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1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:01 am
by dirge
Hi, looking at slowly building a long range rifle f open rifle, I have been offered a 1983 Grunig Elmiger round receiver 300m (non adjustable cheek rest, pistol grip) in 7.62/308 26" barrel
Would this be a suitable receiver to start a build on? what would the working life of this receiver be?
I would plan on shooting the rifle as is and learning the sport, then rebarelling to a 30" barrel

The price of the entire rifle (comes with suitable bipod and sightron scope) would get me a Barnard action but not much more.

Does anyone have any information/opinions on these receivers? the manufacture although very helpful had no instruction/service manuals available

Any and all opinions welcome.

sorry about the double post i also posted this in the new comers section.

Thanks

Jon

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:30 pm
by The Gun Pimp
The Grunig is a good enough receiver and I suspect tolerances will still be good so it will have plenty of life left and should be good enough to form the basis of an accurate rifle.

The problem is - if you get serious and re-barrel and maybe re-stock (I suspect the 300m stock will be rather heavy and with a 30 inch barrel could take you close to the weight limit), you will have a substantial investment in something which could have a poor re-sale value - compared to say a Barnard build but, if that's not a problem - OK. You'll end up with a decent enough rifle.

If the Sightron is an 8-32, this will be good enough for a competitive F Class gun out to 1000 yards. If the magnification is less than 32x then the buy is not so attractive as you will eventually want another scope.

But, if you're paying under a grand for the whole outfit, it's good enough to get you started and find out if you like F Class.

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:28 pm
by dirge
The scope is only 24x, but will suffice for the first learning stage which will probably be at 300-600.

Does anyone know what kind of trigger fits these receivers, I read somewhere it was anschutz but which models?

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:27 am
by R.G.C
The Gun Pimp wrote:The Grunig is a good enough receiver and I suspect tolerances will still be good so it will have plenty of life left and should be good enough to form the basis of an accurate rifle.

The problem is - if you get serious and re-barrel and maybe re-stock (I suspect the 300m stock will be rather heavy and with a 30 inch barrel could take you close to the weight limit), you will have a substantial investment in something which could have a poor re-sale value - compared to say a Barnard build but, if that's not a problem - OK. You'll end up with a decent enough rifle.

If the Sightron is an 8-32, this will be good enough for a competitive F Class gun out to 1000 yards. If the magnification is less than 32x then the buy is not so attractive as you will eventually want another scope.

But, if you're paying under a grand for the whole outfit, it's good enough to get you started and find out if you like F Class.
Vince,

The Barnard is a far secon contender to the Grunig.. Material,concept,finishes, trigger, etc,etc.... Schweizer genauigkzit!!.
R.G.C

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:32 am
by rox
dirge wrote:Does anyone know what kind of trigger fits these receivers, I read somewhere it was anschutz but which models?

I don't know the part number, but I can show you a photo.
  • Top is the round action 2-lug with Anschutz trigger.
  • Middle us an early (80s) ST200 action with Grünig trigger (plate frame).
  • Bottom is a late (2000's) ST200 action with Grünig trigger (machined frame).


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Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:47 am
by R.G.C
dirge wrote:The scope is only 24x, but will suffice for the first learning stage which will probably be at 300-600.

Does anyone know what kind of trigger fits these receivers, I read somewhere it was anschutz but which models?
The trigger is the old Anschuetz one wjth the steel housing, but with the top lever slightly modified to suit the G+E sear lever who is part of the action itself. A first class trigger.
R.G.C

Rox,
There is one spring missing on the repressented trigger!!

R.G.C

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:14 am
by rox
R.G.C wrote:Rox,
There is one spring missing on the repressented trigger!!
R.G.C
Well spotted! Gold Star.

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:17 am
by dirge
Anyone have a ball park indicative price on an 83 in standard isu stock, good condition?

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:23 am
by dirge
So it's not a standard anschutz trigger, dang as I have one I wanted to swap in but I don't want to modify it.

Re: 1983 Grunig Elmiger as basis for f class/target rifle

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:33 pm
by R.G.C
dirge wrote:So it's not a standard anschutz trigger, dang as I have one I wanted to swap in but I don't want to modify it.
The modification iseasy to made. Just grind off the sear hppk pn the Anschutz trifgger lever.
R.G.C