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Re: Perspective

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:21 pm
by Pete
It's still less than 1% of the population, even in London...........who knows how many have died on account of the gov prioritising this over everything else that kills us??

Pete

Re: Perspective

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:48 pm
by snayperskaya
So what are you saying Pete?, that we should just carry on as normal, as in pre-COVID normal, despite the fact it has caused nearly 2 million excess deaths globally so far?.

Re: Perspective

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:16 pm
by Christel
Scenario...we ignore the virus and the NHS is doing its best to keep up.

At some point I suspect the NHS will have more on their plate than they can cope with and will have to turn C-19 patients away plus the rest of the population.

Meanwhile NHS staff is dying. Old people are dying. We saw this at the start before measures were put in place.

Or we deal with the virus as we have done so far. I prefer the latter. At least this way we have some form of control.

It will take until the end of next year to get back to some sort of "normal", is my guess.
The people with long C-19 - well only time will tell.

Re: Perspective

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:34 pm
by Ovenpaa
Here is a plan, stop the tier system and everyone back to work start of next year. well those that want to work and have not got too used to their furlough payments. Yes of course the NHS will fail at some point and a few people will die but it is only 0.1% so what is the worse that can happen? :(

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:59 am
by RDC
The thing to consider is that transmission would have been much more widespread if there were no lockdowns. Therefore more deaths, and long-term problems for many more people.

It's at 0.1% because of the measures put in place.

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:27 am
by Dellboy
at 0,1% 68000 people die who knows how many people will need long covid care , and if it shuts down major hospitals i gues the 68 k could rapidly increase to a death toll of a lot higher

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:53 am
by Sim G
Work of predictive modellers when studying what the potential infection and death rate would have been if there had not been lockdowns, is very sobering.

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:15 am
by GeeRam
Sim G wrote:Work of predictive modellers when studying what the potential infection and death rate would have been if there had not been lockdowns, is very sobering.
Only for those that grasp such information.....which sadly seems to be all too few in the UK.

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:29 am
by Pete
Work of predictive modellers when studying what the potential infection and death rate would have been if the population had applied common sense, would also have been interesting...........

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/18/british- ... -12415650/

Watch the video...........proud to be British? 5mith

Pete

Re: Perspective

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
by Ovenpaa
RDC wrote:The thing to consider is that transmission would have been much more widespread if there were no lockdowns. Therefore more deaths, and long-term problems for many more people.

It's at 0.1% because of the measures put in place.
I wholeheartedly agree. I also wonder just what this countries fatality figures would have been if people had actually exercised a modicum of caution and common sense.

As an aside I read today that three hospitals are now at breaking point :(