F-Class Re-barrel options
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F-Class Re-barrel options
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I am looking at rebarrel options for the RPA Quadlock McMillan stock that I've bought , it's got a .308 bolt face as it's currently 6.5-284.
I certainly can't justify a 7MM WSM or SAUM based purely on barrel life , a straight .284 has been suggested as they give quite a bit more in the way of longevity.
Would a .260 Remington cut it as an F Open rifle??
Any pointers would be most welcome
Cheers
Alan
I am looking at rebarrel options for the RPA Quadlock McMillan stock that I've bought , it's got a .308 bolt face as it's currently 6.5-284.
I certainly can't justify a 7MM WSM or SAUM based purely on barrel life , a straight .284 has been suggested as they give quite a bit more in the way of longevity.
Would a .260 Remington cut it as an F Open rifle??
Any pointers would be most welcome
Cheers
Alan
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Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
Given the .308 bolt face exotica such as the SAUM can be discounted, I would say keep with the existing 6,5-284 chambering as it is very effective, so have a play and see how you get on for a few hundred rounds, the 6,5 will work very well to 1000+ and I have some brass and load data for the 6,5-284. If you like it stick with it, if not go to a TrueFlite or Krieger or whatever takes your fancy when the existing is shot out and chamber it in straight .284 or .284 Shehane.
The 6,5-284 is going to be a lot cheaper to feed
The 6,5-284 is going to be a lot cheaper to feed
Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
Alan,
A 260 rem is a fine cartridge but there are better for serious F Class shooting at ranges out to 1000 yards.
Your best option would be the 284Win - don't bother with the Shehane - Bill (Shehane) took out the taper to make extraction easier for 1000 yard benchrest where we have to run the gun quick (five shots in 10 - 15 seconds) This is not necessary for F Class so don't bog yourself down with having to get custom dies made etc.
Barrel-life should be around 2000 but again, with a Shehane, fireforming could use up 10% of its life.
But - what's wrong with 308???? If you don't shoot a 7mmWSM in Open class you are seriously undergunned (see table of equipment used in the Europeans on the F Class website). At least with a 308, you are on a par with the rest of the F/TR competitors.
With the Quadlock/McMillan you have the basis for a 100% competitive F/TR rifle. Choose your bullet, fit a good barrel and a decent scope, a lightweight bi-pod and you should be competitive.
Cheers
Vince
A 260 rem is a fine cartridge but there are better for serious F Class shooting at ranges out to 1000 yards.
Your best option would be the 284Win - don't bother with the Shehane - Bill (Shehane) took out the taper to make extraction easier for 1000 yard benchrest where we have to run the gun quick (five shots in 10 - 15 seconds) This is not necessary for F Class so don't bog yourself down with having to get custom dies made etc.
Barrel-life should be around 2000 but again, with a Shehane, fireforming could use up 10% of its life.
But - what's wrong with 308???? If you don't shoot a 7mmWSM in Open class you are seriously undergunned (see table of equipment used in the Europeans on the F Class website). At least with a 308, you are on a par with the rest of the F/TR competitors.
With the Quadlock/McMillan you have the basis for a 100% competitive F/TR rifle. Choose your bullet, fit a good barrel and a decent scope, a lightweight bi-pod and you should be competitive.
Cheers
Vince
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Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
Vince, I already shoot in the F-TR class with my rebarreled Remington, I'm the tall bloke from Lincolnshire that you were pulling frames with at the September Diggle match!!Gun Pimp wrote:Alan,
A 260 rem is a fine cartridge but there are better for serious F Class shooting at ranges out to 1000 yards.
Your best option would be the 284Win - don't bother with the Shehane - Bill (Shehane) took out the taper to make extraction easier for 1000 yard benchrest where we have to run the gun quick (five shots in 10 - 15 seconds) This is not necessary for F Class so don't bog yourself down with having to get custom dies made etc.
Barrel-life should be around 2000 but again, with a Shehane, fireforming could use up 10% of its life.
But - what's wrong with 308???? If you don't shoot a 7mmWSM in Open class you are seriously undergunned (see table of equipment used in the Europeans on the F Class website). At least with a 308, you are on a par with the rest of the F/TR competitors.
With the Quadlock/McMillan you have the basis for a 100% competitive F/TR rifle. Choose your bullet, fit a good barrel and a decent scope, a lightweight bi-pod and you should be competitive.
Cheers
Vince
I think some serious soul searching is needed to decide for the best, I don't think I can justify another .308 although it would probably be a better setup. My only real concern would be the total weight, hopefully the rifle will be down at Dolphin this week and I can have a chat with Mik to discuss options.
Cheers
Alan
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Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
Alan,20series wrote: Vince, I already shoot in the F-TR class with my rebarreled Remington, I'm the tall bloke from Lincolnshire that you were pulling frames with at the September Diggle match!!
I think some serious soul searching is needed to decide for the best, I don't think I can justify another .308 although it would probably be a better setup. My only real concern would be the total weight, hopefully the rifle will be down at Dolphin this week and I can have a chat with Mik to discuss options.
Cheers
Alan
I know it's you matey!
Another thing to consider if you are switching to Open Class - the front rest! Another £500 at least!
The problem with the GB FCA League - it's so competitive. We shoot against the World Champions at every League shoot.
I had a half-hearted stab at Open in the Europeans with a 6mm this year - it got me 45th place - I was third in F/TR last year!
Both classes are ultra-competitive but it's cheaper to be competitive in F/TR!
Cheers
Vince
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So, is F/TR the one limited to .223 and .308?
And from what you've said, other "accoutrements" such as rests are also specified?
And from what you've said, other "accoutrements" such as rests are also specified?
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
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Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
SimSim G wrote:So, is F/TR the one limited to .223 and .308?
And from what you've said, other "accoutrements" such as rests are also specified?
Yes F-TR is limited to .223 and .308, the chambers have to be able to take a standard issue round, so no tight neck turned stuff. There are no specified dimensions for bipod or scope magnification limits but the all up MAX weight for a set up 8.25Kg or 18lb 2oz inclusive of rifle, bipod and scope.
Alan
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Re: F-Class Re-barrel options
Sim G,
Have alook at the GBFCA website www.gbfclass.co.uk - there is an F/TR section with rules and pics.
Vince
Have alook at the GBFCA website www.gbfclass.co.uk - there is an F/TR section with rules and pics.
Vince
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Thing I always worry about is turning up not knowing much! Still I shall overcome this in 2012 - new rifle from Osprey is on order...
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Very nice some variation of the Savage or something else??Mr_Logic wrote:Thing I always worry about is turning up not knowing much! Still I shall overcome this in 2012 - new rifle from Osprey is on order...
Alan
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