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Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:40 am
by DL.
That, Sir, is bowfing. Please pass the eye bleach!

Is it just me or was there the sound of a space ship taking off! :squirrel:

If I get any similar pictures on my trail cam I will be horrified, but the population density is a bit more forgiving up here.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:08 am
by 25Pdr
1066 wrote:The standard camouflage must work ok. I caught this on my camera last summer, gave me quite a shock when I saw it. This is the edited version, trust me you wouldn't like to see or hear the whole thing. It's a cheap Aldi special at around £70.
https://youtu.be/iVjl1oCPqLg
I think she was in my class at school. :p lol

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:23 pm
by TomH
Is that your garden 1066?

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:40 pm
by dromia
I think she knew damn fine where the camera was.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:58 pm
by 1066
TomH wrote:Is that your garden 1066?
:) No, but it's a little plot I shoot and this was a dog walker who shouldn't have been there at all.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:02 pm
by TomH
1066 wrote:
TomH wrote:Is that your garden 1066?
:) No, but it's a little plot I shoot and this was a dog walker who shouldn't have been there at all.
Don't think she walks the dog far, by the size of that arse.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:27 pm
by Maggot
That was truly horrid but not surprising.

Trail cams have their uses however what people forget is that they were designed for catching animals and not humans.

I recently did a trial across several and the head and shoulders winner was the Bushnell aggressor no glow

http://bushnell.com/hunting/trail-camer ... or-no-glow

Why no glow? Most units use 88Nm IR that glows and are fairly obvious to the human eye, my wife spotted one immediately (Bushnell Essential HD).

The Aggressor uses a 940Nm unit with enough oomph to punch out further than many of the 880 units (higher wavelength is often harder to see but shorter range).

It also has a good long detection range that deals well with crossing as well as head on targets.

It also has a very high resolution which is where its usefulness comes in. Most of these are designed to be set at 6 feet above the deck or so, human eyeline. IF you have good res, decent IR and good PIR and IR reach, the res will allow you to mount the unit higher and still get a decent image, however...beware baseball caps. Or mount low and cam up well.

IR at night is always a problem as most people look totally different and many non mil cammo paterns are rendered useless as they dont reflect IR so look like plain material.

The Agressor also does audio and works reasonably well on a vehicle at angles up to about 30 deg.

The issue with the GSM ones is that although ideally you may get an image of the perp, a lot of these units depend on 3rd party servers or operate in areas that are remote and often cannot get enough bandwidth or signal to be reliable.

for cammo....ivy covered tree/artificial Ivy, or cover with sniper tape and glue moss to it. You will be surprised just how quickly they melt, but if a person is surveillance aware you are going to have to be a bit lucky/clever.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:22 pm
by DL.
One thing that crossed my mind is that if poachers are using night vision, they may well be able to see the camera that way.

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:04 am
by Blackstuff
You don't even need proper nightvision to see the IR on trail-cams, most camcorders and phone cameras can see it too :bad:

Re: Trail Cameras

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:42 am
by swotty
1066 wrote:The standard camouflage must work ok. I caught this on my camera last summer, gave me quite a shock when I saw it. This is the edited version, trust me you wouldn't like to see or hear the whole thing. It's a cheap Aldi special at around £70.
https://youtu.be/iVjl1oCPqLg

That's horrifying! I was thinking of getting a trail cam but based on your experience i'm not so sure now ;-)