bradaz11 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:42 pm
Daryll wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:10 pm
Our range shooting area floor is painted in 2 zones... the red zone 3-4 ft from the benches, the gray zone behind that.
Once all the weapons on the benches have been cleared by the RO, and people are allowed to go forward, no-one is allowed in the red zone. If the RO stands at the end of the line of benches, he can easily see anyone infringing that..
If you've picked up a magazine and box of ammo, theres no problem loading the magazine while you're standing in the grey zone when others are forward.
ok, so it's more touching mag near gun. but wow, some of you treat your members like children. If they aren't safe handling their firearms, train them better!
some of you would wet yourselves at BWSS matches. We run a hot range, so your walking around with loaded revolvers in your holsters and moving up to a loading table with your guns while other people are shooting. then move to the line with a rifle with 10 rounds loaded into it. difference is there is a strict set of clear rules for this, and we all police each other on safety aspects. Thats why no one has been hurt.
same as at practical matches, mags are loaded behind shooters, while you await your turn at the course of fire, then next shooter retrieves their gun and waits while the course is reset.
I'll say it again, if you can't trust thoseat the tables next to you, why are they allowed to still be on the table next to you!
I would say quite the opposite about peoples safety concerns at a BWSS or PSG match/range, as like you say everyone operates to a fixed set of 'stringent' rules and more importantly, there are specific and pre-ordained consequences for breaking the rules. Guns are also held vertically or are in secure holsters when not in use which makes it obvious to everyone that they are pointed in a safe direction. You can't do that on some rifle ranges (particularly MOD ranges) where the ubiquitous '70 mil' rule applies.
Rifle ranges have basic safety rules, that a small minority still can't seem to follow, but there is limited consequences for breaking them aside from a possible b0ll0cking from an RCO, (and I can count on one hand when i've seen that happen, two of them being me delivering them). When i've shot as a guest with another club on an MOD range i witnessed someone open their case with the rifle facing up range, bolt in and closed and he just turned through 180 degrees with the muzzle horizontal at chest height and swept 60% of the line. I mentioned that to the person who was hosting and was told "Oh thats just
*, he always does that"....
And then there's the actual wild west that is clay shooting grounds....
hitchphil wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:26 pm
Pete wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:58 am
And bear in mind that there is a certain type of person who revels in supervising others, is a stickler for "rules", who assumes that commonsense is solely their prerogative, and that all around them are idiots.....
Pete
Sod The F Off mate .............. What a patronising & condescending comment!
To many of us RCO its 180 degrees to that, its assure safety & help manage the flow of the event & facilitate a happy, meaningful & fair shoot. Thats why I & others like me get paid for performing it.
In fairness there are a few like that (in my experience anyway), thankfully though, they are in the ultra minority.