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bnz41 wrote:Went to an Arms and Military fair at Chatham on Sunday to buy some extra mags for a AK & Fal.

Was surprised to see several stalls had mags but they had been cut with a slot both sides at the top of the mag. I asked the trader why he explained that due to new EU regulations any rifle going to UK proof with a 10 & 20+ round mag in it had to have the mag cut, so he had extra cut so that anyone buying a rifle like a AK and wanted extra mags he had pre cut ones available. The rifles now have a bar through the receiver where the mag fits hence why the mags are cut to fit around the bar.

He only had 2 non cut ones for sale and were rusty.

The 10 round mags were in N04's & SMLE rifles and were cut.

Just ordered several non cut Fal ones from another trader.

Fedaykin wrote:

bnz41 wrote:Went to an Arms and Military fair at Chatham on Sunday to buy some extra mags for a AK & Fal.

Was surprised to see several stalls had mags but they had been cut with a slot both sides at the top of the mag. I asked the trader why he explained that due to new EU regulations any rifle going to UK proof with a 10 & 20+ round mag in it had to have the mag cut, so he had extra cut so that anyone buying a rifle like a AK and wanted extra mags he had pre cut ones available. The rifles now have a bar through the receiver where the mag fits hence why the mags are cut to fit around the bar.

He only had 2 non cut ones for sale and were rusty.

The 10 round mags were in N04's & SMLE rifles and were cut.

Just ordered several non cut Fal ones from another trader.

Presumably for Deac guns, so Military Surplus fairs are going to stop being a good source for AR15 and AK magazines in the future

So 20 - 30rd+ milspec magazines are going to skyrocket in price from firearms dealers!

Fedaykin wrote:

bnz41 wrote:Went to an Arms and Military fair at Chatham on Sunday to buy some extra mags for a AK & Fal.

Was surprised to see several stalls had mags but they had been cut with a slot both sides at the top of the mag. I asked the trader why he explained that due to new EU regulations any rifle going to UK proof with a 10 & 20+ round mag in it had to have the mag cut, so he had extra cut so that anyone buying a rifle like a AK and wanted extra mags he had pre cut ones available. The rifles now have a bar through the receiver where the mag fits hence why the mags are cut to fit around the bar.

He only had 2 non cut ones for sale and were rusty.

The 10 round mags were in N04's & SMLE rifles and were cut.

Just ordered several non cut Fal ones from another trader.

Presumably for Deac guns, so Military Surplus fairs are going to stop being a good source for AR15 and AK magazines in the future

So 20 - 30rd+ milspec magazines are going to skyrocket in price from firearms dealers!

Fedaykin wrote:Hmmm Umarex a European manufacturer, I bet this will affect GSG as well. I own a GSG STG44 and sensibly got a second 25rd Magazine when I bought it. So European made mini rifle are going to face issues unless the manufacturers can be persuaded to make them for other markets or license out.

bnz41 wrote: The 10 round mags were in N04's & SMLE rifles and were cut.

Sixshot6 wrote:
Now riddle me this Fedyakin. I've gone over the directive and it doesn't affect rimfire semi auto mags, the final version only mentioned centrefire semi autos (which puts long guns under the centrefire umbrella). The wording was centrefire semi autos long guns are 10 rounds unless authorized and short arms are 30/60cm that can be 20 rounds. Read the wording for that one carefully.

Fedaykin wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:
Now riddle me this Fedyakin. I've gone over the directive and it doesn't affect rimfire semi auto mags, the final version only mentioned centrefire semi autos (which puts long guns under the centrefire umbrella). The wording was centrefire semi autos long guns are 10 rounds unless authorized and short arms are 30/60cm that can be 20 rounds. Read the wording for that one carefully.

I remember that the wording was vague and loop-holey, in respect of Umarex a German manufacturer being over enthusiastic over the meaning of the directive is my gut feeling.

"centrefire semi autos long guns are 10 rounds unless authorized" - That gives leeway to national governments to work around it by stating that the magazine capacity is authorised under their licensing regime. I remember that Finland was spitting tacks at the idea of restricted magazine capacity! Also considering a straight pull or for that matter a lever/trigger release is not semi automatic the legislation wouldn't apply here anyway.

Oh to retire to Finland!

GeeRam wrote:

bnz41 wrote: The 10 round mags were in N04's & SMLE rifles and were cut.

What.............Lee-Enfield mags are affected by this nonsense aaarggh

Sixshot6 wrote:
It stating centrefire means umarex os being as you said are being over enuthasitic. I suspect enforcement will be spotty at best. It likely means seek alternative sources or more group buys from the states to justify the paperwork. For now we just see the mess that will appear for the next few months.